Muslim propagandists make a big show about the Koran saying that there shal be no coercion in religion. Observably, the real muslims in the mosques do not believe this. Imams and mullahs do not preach this. Muslims who leave Islam do so at the threat of their lives. The innate violence of Islam is very real and easily uncovered.
Read a current example here...
MALAYSIA
Church besieged after false rumours about Muslim baptisms
by Joseph Masilamany
A protest by hundreds of Muslims ended without any harm done. The Muslims were convinced that a group of Muslims was being baptized. The police and Religious Affairs Department have announced they will investigate the matter.
Kuala Lumpur (AsiaNews) – A Muslim protest outside the Catholic Church of Our Lady of Lourdes in Ipoh, 220km north of Kuala Lumpur, luckily ended without any harm done. The protest was prompted by false rumours about a baptism ceremony of a group of Muslims.
Yesterday, as a first Holy Communion service for 110 Catholic children was under way, 300 Muslims mounted a protest outside the church, instigated by SMS messages claiming that a group of Muslims was to be baptized there.
Despite the tense situation outside the church compound, the congregation of about 1,000 parishioners continued with the service, having been advised not to leave the church until the protesters had left.
Perak State police chief, Datuk Abdul Aziz Bulat, who was at the scene, advised protesters not to believe rumours, especially those transmitted through SMS. “Contrary to what the SMS claimed, no such thing took place at the church and I have directed my men to investigate and trace the source of this malicious text message and its sender,” he told a media conference.
The protesters dispersed after about two hours, during which Federal Reserve Unit (FRU) troops arrived in four trucks and a water cannon truck and formed a barricade between the protesters and the church. Aziz said the crowd comprised members of a political party and some curious onlookers. The police chief also said officers from the Perak State Religious Affairs Department were at the scene to assist and explain to the crowd that the SMS was sent by provocateurs.
Policemen were anyhow stationed in the vicinity to ensure there would be no more such protests.
The National News Agency, Bernama, quoted the Perak Religious Affairs Department director, Datuk Jamry Sury, as saying that he would have the case investigated and take action against the culprits who spread the rumour.
Meanwhile, the Archbishop Emeritus of Kuala Lumpur, Anthony Soter Fernandez, told AsiaNews: “It is not the nature of the Catholic Church to indiscriminately baptize any person. Any adult seeking baptism has to first undergo a long period of examination and faith education.”
Mgr Fernandez, who now lectures at the General Seminary in Penang, said the onus was on any adult who wished to know more about the Catholic faith to sort out all impediments before seeking such instruction. He reiterated that the Catholic Church in Malaysia had never conducted clandestine baptisms of Muslims.
Comment: The innate violence of Islam is common knowledge to all Australians who look at Islam with open eyes. This doesn't mean that all muslims are violent; obviously they are not. You can have peaceful muslims, but not peaceful Islam.
The current hysteria that lurks just under the surface with muslims is apostacy. Muslims wanting to leave Islam take their lives in their hands by doing so. Thus any story which plays to this worry will bring immediate reactions from overwrought muslims who will resort to violence without any difficulty.
The mad crowd in Malaysia is just another example of a religious group whose world is starting to collapse. Islam is innately violent in a world where ordinary people are becoming ever more opposed to violence. Islam is dying and its fanatical adherents will get violent to slow the process. Their violence, of course, just hastens their decline. Islam, like Soviet Communism, will collapse because of its internal contradictions, not because of some external conquest.
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its probably a good place to start with facts-
-islam is the second largest and fastest growing religion in the world.
-"islam" the word is arabic for "submission", ie submission to the will of God (arabic-Allah).
-"muslim" means a person who submits (to the will of God)
-islam as a religion and its laws is just as "coercive" as orthodox judaism or christianity in it's 'dogma' or interpretation of religious codes and their applications; eg divorce or abortion in catholicism.
-in a time when we need to breed tolerance through education and understanding, it's disturbing your article is so singularly prejudiced.
FIRST SEEK TO UNDERSTAND, THEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
Its probably a good place to start with facts - real facts.
- The number of people in a religion does not equte to it being more truthful. Likewise an argument that has many people for it than against it is not any more truthful because of the number of people who vote for it.
- Islam is not the fastest growing religion in the world in terms of converts. More than 6 million people are leaving Islam a year all over the wolrd but mainly in Africa. Pure convert numbers are hard to monitor but population is not (many Muslim families have larger than average size families which make up the numbers i.e not really a good thing).
- In many places in the world Buddhism is growing faster in rate than any other religion.
- Islam means peaceful submission to God but is anything but. Islam requires you to except everything that is in their Holy books without question. This is why you hear the programmed response so much "allah knows best", because they don't know why they follow it, or what the verses really mean. Oh well, God knows best.
- There is severe coercion in Islam.
Research the history about the first Muslims (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali) after Muhammad died mysteriously from illness.
They went on violent conquests (Blood Thirsty Holy Wars) for wealth, land (which led to converts) with the absolute right to rule with Islamic law (in about 120 years the Muslims stole land that extended from Spain to China and from North Africa to the Middle East) and non-Muslims were given no choice to not obey the law of Muslims ("no coercion in religion" ???)
The only resonable way to get along with the new Muslim rulers and earn more money (non-Muslims had to pay more taxes than Muslims and had less rights) was to convert to Islam and join their armies.
So coercion in Islam is nothing like the coercion in other religions.
Islam is a dangerous, violent intolerant ideology.
It's really just Arab Imperialism dressed as religion.
Whoever heard of a religion that condones violent wars to spread itself and promises rewards for the militants ?
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