Monday, September 04, 2006

Australian Government Talks Bluntly To Local Muslims.

Note: For the benefit of readers overseas this posting gives you a little taste of a recent 'uproar' from local muslims because the Asutralian Prime Minister and Treasurer spoke bluntly to them about their slackness in the area of integration into Australia.

I have included the comments from the source which is 'Dhimmi Watch' a most excellent site for keeping an eye on the slippery elements among the 'professional muslims'.

A good read...

September 03, 2006
Australian treasurer "keeps up Muslim pressure"
Any support John Howard has on his frank and accurate statements about Muslim immigrants to Australia and their need to integrate is most welcome, though Costello's support comes in terms whose vagueness may easily be exploited by the insincere apologist: Endorsing "basic values," and denouncing "terrorism" without elaboration leaves plenty of room for lip service without action.

Also quite prominent in this article is the usual mantra that Islam has been "hijacked" by a Tiny Minority of Extremists, that "this is not the real Islam" -- assuming without demanding or looking for proof.

From News.com.au: "Treasurer keeps up Muslim pressure."

FEDERAL Treasurer Peter Costello says Australian Muslim leaders need to stand up and publicly denounce terrorism in all its forms.
Mr Costello has also backed calls by Prime Minister John Howard for Islamic migrants to learn English and adopt Australian values, warning quarrels of the old country should not be brought to Australia.
"I think the prime minister has a point that migrants who come to Australia are expected to speak English and endorse basic Australian values, and it's going to be a problem for future generations if they don't," Mr Costello told the Nine Network.
"We have very, very successfully integrated people from all over the world in this country because we have had the attitude that when you come to Australia, whatever arguments you might have had in the old country we start again, and we start again with a common set of values and a common language."
Mr Howard caused outrage in Australia's Islamic community this week when he said Muslims needed to speak English and show respect to women.
Mr Costello today said there was a minority in the Islamic community that had been radicalised and was preying upon young people with dangerous ideologies.
It was important that moderate Islamic leaders speak out against the radicals and denounce terrorism in all its forms around the world, he said.
No apologist will get through a sentence denouncing "terrorism" without taking a potshot at US foreign policy, or Israel, attempting to deflect the focus from the doctrine of jihad, and of subjugating non-believers.

"This is where we really need the Islamic leadership of this country to stand up and contend unequivocally that terrorism, no matter who it is perpetrated by, to make it clear that terrorism is never justified, under the cover of religion and to make it clear to would be converts that when you join this religion, you do not join a radical political ideology," Mr Costello said.
He said Australian Muslim leaders had to make it clear that terrorism had nothing to do with real Islam.
"You have seen under the cover of a radical form of Islam, terrorism being perpetrated," Mr Costello said.
"You have seen it with September the 11th, you have seen it in Bali, you have seen it with the London bombings and it is very, very important that the leadership of Australia are very clear and very precise that this is not real Islam, that terrorism is always wrong and terrorism is always to be condemned no matter what religion they seek to use as a cover."
Quaker terrorists, take note.

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Comments

Gee, you have to have a grasp on the English language, and respect for Women; I bet their panties are in a twist, or maybe on their heads, causing confusion.

Posted by: mustang65 at September 3, 2006 09:28 AM
The 'radical' form of Islam?

What other 'form' is there? The Irshad Manji 'form'?

"...when you join this religion, you do not join a radical political ideology..."

Apparently Mr. Costello has not yet seen the Zawahari/Gahdan video in which Gahdan clearly stated that there is no separation of church and state in Islam.

"...this is not real Islam..."

Just once, I wish those making such statements would also cite the Islamic teachings, chapter and verse, that support their assertions.

Posted by: PRCS at September 3, 2006 10:12 AM
PRCS,

There is the Lahore Ahmadiyya "form" that I'm sure Naseem will bring up since she's posting this morning. They're "peaceful", and concerned about our future bloodshed, but say things about Jesus that would have made Mohammed blush.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at September 3, 2006 11:02 AM
CC,

Perhaps I should have asked, what other legitimate 'form' is there?

Thanks.

Posted by: PRCS at September 3, 2006 11:22 AM
Philip Ruddock seems to get it, but he keeps a rather low profile these days. Howards understanding of Islam is obviously not very deep, but the 350ooo subversive Mohammedans in Australia seem to worry him enough to say that he doesn't like what he sees.

Costello is a rather savvy politician, but if he talks like this it shows that he is clueless about the teachings of Islam...

We don't really have much time to make our polit-props take crash-courses in Islamic jihad-doctrine and counter-jihad warfare. Something needs to be done and fast. Any suggestions?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 3, 2006 12:53 PM
Sheik,

Buy a few copies of the Qur'an and some stickies.

Type up a polite form letter asking your elected officials to point out which chapters and verses are being misrepresented by the 'extremists'.

Personally take a copy of the Qur'an, some stickies, and a copy of your letter, to each appropriate politician's office, leaving them with an office staffer. They probably log receipt of such visits and materials.

Politely state your concern and your desire for a written response.

You might, alternatively, flag applicable pages of the Qur'an for specific responses.

You may not get a response, but you will know that the official at least does have the appropriate information in hand.

It's a start.

Posted by: PRCS at September 3, 2006 01:20 PM
Grand Alliance of Jews, Christians, Hindus and Sikhs

It is time to form a Grand Alliance of Jews, Christians, Hindus and Sikhs to fight and resist the clear and unacceptable Islamic threat to our cultures and our democratic ways. If our governments and leaders won't properly recognize the threat and defend us, then we owe it to our families to rise to our own defencse. Spread the word throughout the internet, and let this idea take root and grow.

Let us ally ourselves, and give those who threaten our safety the jihad they so desire - culturally, politically, and physically - and prevent the West from committing suicide.

"Lead, don't appease."

- Rosemont

Posted by: jdka at September 3, 2006 02:19 PM
Well at least we are seeing our leaders speaking out about SOME of the issues in this divide. Can anyone point out to me where Messrs Bush or Blair have reminded Muslims to speak the national language (which one was it in USA again?) or to remind them to respect women? Evidence please?

I think some people understimate the Australian leadership. We now have evidence that Howard has reminded Muslims that Australian law takes precedence over any idea of personal sharia, and that political activities under the veil of religion will not be tolerated.

This is more evidence of the Australian direct way of calling a spade a spade. Americans and Brits should take note.




Posted by: payingattention at September 3, 2006 05:15 PM
If they don't want to integrate, they shouldn't be allowed to immigrate!

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at September 3, 2006 05:36 PM
"Mr Howard caused outrage in Australia's Islamic community this week when he said Muslims needed to speak English and show respect to women."
Show respect for women? He really said that? This is outrageous! This contradicts the koran, this is outrageous, this is islamophobia. I'm going to rage.






Posted by: wallyUK at September 3, 2006 11:27 PM
Don't pin too much faith on Howard & Costello. To help their pleas maybe Howard should change his name to Abbott so we'd have the Abbott & Costello show. Wake up Howard and Costello. These two alleged politicians say that there is no way that sharia law will be established in Australia. It has already been introduced by stealth. We have 'women only swimming sessions at council owned pools. We have 'women only' gym sessions. We have the cruel slaughter of animals so that halal meat can be sold...and on and on it goes.

Howard & Costello, answer me this: whose turn is it to have the brain this week?



Posted by: Susanp at September 3, 2006 11:44 PM
I believe Mr Howard and Mr Costello know more about islam than they let on. I also hope they have had a bit of insight from other countries who are now experiencing huge problems.

The opposition are too scared to say much because may of their seats are in islamic areas in Australia, eg Morris Iemma the NSW premier. His seat includes Lakemba which has the biggest mosque here.

I hope they keep up this kind of pressure. The local mo's are not happy!!

Posted by: Gramfan at September 4, 2006 12:55 AM




Comment: Hear Hear!! to all the comments above.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Greetings from across the Big Water.

Just found "Reform Islam 101."

It's remarkable how similarly we think. Nice work! Keep it up.

~ Infidelious